tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post4253994041530028152..comments2024-03-28T10:26:20.408-04:00Comments on Ponderings on a Faith Journey: Huckabee -- Clergy and the Declaration of IndependenceRobert Cornwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04581876323110725024noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-2252290506292994222007-12-17T19:08:00.000-05:002007-12-17T19:08:00.000-05:00Didn't many or at least some of the Founding Fathe...Didn't many or at least some of the Founding Fathers want to eliminate slavery then? I think I read somewhere that they couldn't afford to do so if they wanted to keep the nation intact right after the war. So they sacrificed the rights of the slaves for the preservation of the nation. <BR/><BR/>**Does Huckabee actually think that the founders believed "that every single human being in this society has intrinsic value and worth?" **<BR/><BR/>And isn't Huckabee's statement assuming that the Founding Fathers felt that a fetus was the same as a person already born?OneSmallStephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08189124855157679020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-67591140490250529182007-12-17T16:08:00.000-05:002007-12-17T16:08:00.000-05:00Mystical Seeker,You ask the million dollar questn ...Mystical Seeker,<BR/><BR/>You ask the million dollar questn about our own legacy as a nation. All men created equal doesn't apply to either women or to non-white men. It is in its original context rather limited -- which is why "originalism" as a means of interpreting the Constitution is dangerous.Robert Cornwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04581876323110725024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-26090893661240131952007-12-17T16:07:00.000-05:002007-12-17T16:07:00.000-05:00Drew, Thanks for the correction -- i will change W...Drew, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the correction -- i will change Winthrop to Witherspoon -- a bit careless this morning.Robert Cornwallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04581876323110725024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-24173262219365652422007-12-17T16:05:00.000-05:002007-12-17T16:05:00.000-05:00Does Huckabee actually think that the founders bel...Does Huckabee actually think that the founders believed "that every single human being in this society has intrinsic value and worth?" I think the only way that could possibly be true is if the founders didn't consider slaves to be human beings.Mystical Seekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828225180668865911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-27138183143799467182007-12-17T15:47:00.000-05:002007-12-17T15:47:00.000-05:00It was actually John Witherspoon. He was, by the ...It was actually John Witherspoon. He was, by the way, a political man of the Scottish common sense realist school of thought. I would think that many evangelicals today might have issue with some of those premises (see Hume and Reid over at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy).<BR/><BR/>But even if they were ministers, let's say, the used the word Creator and made no reference to Jesus, or God. That seems to get missed in all of the D. James Kennedy kind of rhetoric that Huck is espousing. It does nothing to change the fact that the 1st Amendment norm requires equal regard: no favoritism nor any persecution to any given religion. Moreover, it is clear to protect our beliefs, but not our actions on that belief.<BR/><BR/>Can one of these folks please take a course in Constitutional government at their local community college please?<BR/><BR/>BTW - there is a series of excellent podcasts from Princeton U that cover this issue at great length all available for free @ iTunes. If you don't have an iPod, just down load the iTunes software for free, download the podcasts and burn then to a CD. Very well worth it.<BR/><BR/>Peace.Drew Tatuskohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12344192935890766744noreply@blogger.com