tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post5683097625251760939..comments2024-03-28T10:26:20.408-04:00Comments on Ponderings on a Faith Journey: God, the Weather, and JudgmentRobert Cornwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04581876323110725024noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-39795248120284815362009-08-28T18:09:30.677-04:002009-08-28T18:09:30.677-04:00it would be good if you also see more from piper o...it would be good if you also see more from piper on this.<br /><br />http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1968_clarifying_the_tornado/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-54419800118383426192009-08-22T17:40:56.216-04:002009-08-22T17:40:56.216-04:00Great post, Bob!Great post, Bob!kwpersheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02313821985751564632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-91024556321208815792009-08-22T13:52:03.620-04:002009-08-22T13:52:03.620-04:00John..
Great point and I would say it is all about...John..<br />Great point and I would say it is all about convenience. As a married man.. it is easy for me to go against abortion and gay marriage b/c they are in essence the polar opposite of my life. However, like the rich king, the idea of giving everything away is a much much more difficult idea for me. It doesn't mean I compromise the issue, but rather take inventory and wonder do I spend as much time, energy, and prayer over other issues as well. Pornography is a HUGE issue in the church, yet it gets only a small amount of face time.<br /><br />ChuckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-82950839854960492282009-08-21T23:05:11.065-04:002009-08-21T23:05:11.065-04:00I was thinking about the Ten Commandments this eve...I was thinking about the Ten Commandments this evening. And I wondered why some folks spend so little time railing against the sins of murder and adultery and false swearing and failure to honor the Sabbath or parents, or the failure to love God and eliminate idols from our lives, while spending so much time railing against sins (if indeed they are sins which are no worse than 10th on the list?<br /><br />Where are their priorities? We all covet and we all murder with our hatred, and we all fail to love God as we should, and we all have idols - are these not more important targets of the prophet's wrath?<br /><br />JohnJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245470576919732592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-78530312128565156252009-08-21T22:51:06.307-04:002009-08-21T22:51:06.307-04:00I actually like Piper for his spiritual writing an...I actually like Piper for his spiritual writing and preaching... however I think this is way off base. So if nothing happens, does that mean God is ok with what is happening? It rains on both the righteous and unrighteous and so to look at certain events as signs is crazy. Now if there stood up a voice from nowhere that swayed a convention towards Scripture or gave a great clarification that caused people to fall down and worship God.. that I may say is the Holy Spirit. <br />ChuckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-55964972459478480442009-08-21T19:35:14.318-04:002009-08-21T19:35:14.318-04:00What an opportunist. So God flicked the cross off ...What an opportunist. So God flicked the cross off the convention? What sort of hateful things were going on and by "which side"? Did they vote on the meaning? David McAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-4790835620091506702009-08-21T17:42:43.684-04:002009-08-21T17:42:43.684-04:00I reject utterly the notion that God sent a messag...I reject utterly the notion that God sent a message to warn the ELCA against taking any particular stand on homosexuality.<br /><br />I highly doubt that God wasted one of those rare moments of dramatic intervention into the physical universe to send a rather simple message to a rather small group of people. If God were to fool around with the laws of nature it would be to send a more general message to a far larger audience.<br /><br />That being said, there is always the possibility that God could send someone, anyone, to bring a prophetic word to a person or a small group of people - even a prophetic word against divesting homosexuality of its apparently traditional place as the worst sin possible for a human being. But the trouble with that is who's to know whether the speaker is truly prophetic or merely deluded?<br /><br />God has put us into a difficult box. God does communicate with us, and often through prophets and their message almost always contradicts contemporary values. It is easy to see why a sincere proponent of a position, a person who regards himself or herself as conduit of prophetic wisdom, would conclude that a disaster was intended as a message from God favoring the proponent's position.<br /><br />I suggest that Bob's approach may be the wisest: to assess the prophets message in light of the message of Scripture. Does this message fairly reflect the teachings of Jesus about love, reconciliation, forgiveness and compassion, and against judgment by anyone but the Father? Does it reflect a desire to call on the Father to forgive? or does it reflect a call on the Father to give us a sign or worse, to exact judgment?<br /><br />From my perspective I have to call this prophecy from Piper to be personal and not of God.<br /><br />JohnJohnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245470576919732592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-49757212690047049072009-08-21T17:04:39.650-04:002009-08-21T17:04:39.650-04:00Piper's line of argument would be a little mor...Piper's line of argument would be a little more solid were it not for the fact that God spent an entire book of the Bible demolishing the contemporary theological conventional wisdom that disaster is necessarily related to judgement.<br /><br />Book of Job, people, BOOK OF JOB.Simon Cozenshttp://www.simon-cozens.org/blogs/simonnoreply@blogger.com