tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post7730934102516566647..comments2024-03-28T10:26:20.408-04:00Comments on Ponderings on a Faith Journey: Two Ways of Seeing America's FutureRobert Cornwallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04581876323110725024noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-48592844190953048332009-05-22T22:32:56.160-04:002009-05-22T22:32:56.160-04:00It could be Cheney mearly swallowed the bait-
htt...It could be Cheney mearly swallowed the bait-<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/17/iraq.usaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-34606277721948920842009-05-22T22:26:58.630-04:002009-05-22T22:26:58.630-04:00Read up Chuck,
Google Al-Libi (an alibi)?
Is tha...Read up Chuck,<br /><br />Google Al-Libi (an alibi)?<br /><br />Is that ironic or what?<br /><br />David McAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-17840647728212203112009-05-22T22:19:41.896-04:002009-05-22T22:19:41.896-04:00Chuck, Why would the VP office be so consumed wit...Chuck, Why would the VP office be so consumed with this? <br /><br />Al-Libi's tortured and knowingly fabricated testimony was the source of information used by Bush to sell the war to the U.S. Senate, and the source for Colin Powell's bogus presentation to the United Nations in 2003. What were the questions put to him under torture? We still need answers.<br /><br />I think Cheney is nothing more than a war profiteer trying to justify his actions so he can enjoy his spoils in peace.<br /><br />I have dealt with people who have worked with Cheney in the private sector. Nothing they said would cause me to give him any slack. <br /><br />David McAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22980286.post-38139674720392632132009-05-22T21:52:41.245-04:002009-05-22T21:52:41.245-04:00I thought CNN did a good job on this one. They ha...I thought CNN did a good job on this one. They had one commentary that actually congratulated both men for their boldness and willingness to share their views. (isn't that what america is REALLY about?) You don't have to agree with them, but at least they are taking the backbone on the issue. Contrast this with Congress.. Pelosi wasn't told, or her staffer was told, or the CIA mislead her, or... Take a position and defend.. so I actually applaud both men in this case.<br /><br />I FINALLY read a conservative "justification" if you will on torture. This was on cnn.com:<br /><br /> "The NT [New Testament] is clear that God grants the right of the 'sword' to the state to be used against wrongdoers," Kuykendall says. "Just as I believe I don't have a right to vengeance personally, I do believe that I can seek justice through the state and call the police on a robber, or a gunman threatening my life."<br /><br />Chuck Colson said that Christians are supposed to obey the law, but there may be times when there is a higher obligation, such as ignoring a "no trespassing" sign to rescue a drowning man.<br /><br />"So it is with torture," Colson wrote. "If a competent authority honestly believes that this was the only way to get information that might save the lives of thousands, I believe he would be justified."<br /><br />I am conservative, but I can't bite on these arguments. It tends to give government a free pass on difficult issues. Who is fully competent? Justice for a violation is one thing, but do we do an injustice to prevent a possible violation? <br /><br />I don't really have a good answer personally on this issue as I haven't fully wrestled it out. Torture is such a big and broad word. Pulling fingernails is torture and clearly wrong... but too much homework could be consider torture to a student. My one dig is that I do find it fascinating that people who openly support abortion find so much passion on this issue. <br /><br />ChuckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com