Academic Theology for the Populace?
Tony Jones, former leader of Emergent Village and participant in the recent Transforming Theology event in Claremont, has written a post wrestling with the question: "Are Academic Theologians Useless?
He tells of a statement made at that conference, which had drawn together a number of progressive theologians.
Now, I've read enough Tony's stuff and listened/watched others, to know that he can be exaggerate things just a bit, but I think he's on to something. Just before this quote he noted that years ago people would have turned to a Reinhold Niebuhr or maybe a young Harvey Cox to debate someone like a Bill Maher, and defend progressive Christianity. There simply aren't those kinds of known folks willing to mix it up in the public square. You've got plenty of right wing folks out there, but who besides Marcus Borg and a few others are out there speaking not just to the unconverted, but to the progressive Christians? I know I'm going to get some flack for this, but don't say John Spong. Spong is, in my mind, nothing more than a bomb thrower -- at Christians.
But there are good theologians out there who, as Tony suggests, write a lot of material for the academic community, but little for either clergy or more importantly the lay person. So, where does the educated Christian layperson go? Why to Bart Ehrman and John Spong, neither of whom provides the kind of material that will stir the soul of a progressive Christian soul. Indeed, much of what I read from progressive Christians seems intent on attacking the church.
But there is good theology out there that could be transformative. And a good example is the stuff that Philip Clayton is doing - except his written materials are highly specialized and very dense. I'm reading his Adventures in the Spirit, but I've only made it through four chapters and although trained in theology, I find it difficult sledding. But, in his videos -- many of which are posted here on this blog, I find an engaged, committed, personable, gracious, theologian. I'd love it if he would, take what he's doing in these more academic works and brings it down to the level of the lay person -- the kind of book that a Marcus Borg might write (and publish with HarperOne).
So, I think Tony is right. Progressives need to be creating spirit lifting, intellectually stimulating, but understandable books for the Christian populace!
He tells of a statement made at that conference, which had drawn together a number of progressive theologians.
Last week, Jonathan L. Walton blogged here on RD about a conference that he and I recently attended at Claremont School of Theology. He mentioned my charge, to the collection of two score “progressive” theologians, that they be more savvy about how they market themselves.
More specifically, I accused those theologians of falling asleep at the wheel, of giving up the populist agenda bequeathed to them by William Jennings Bryan, and of caring more about tenure and academic guilds than about changing the minds of the people in the checkout line at Walmart.
Now, I've read enough Tony's stuff and listened/watched others, to know that he can be exaggerate things just a bit, but I think he's on to something. Just before this quote he noted that years ago people would have turned to a Reinhold Niebuhr or maybe a young Harvey Cox to debate someone like a Bill Maher, and defend progressive Christianity. There simply aren't those kinds of known folks willing to mix it up in the public square. You've got plenty of right wing folks out there, but who besides Marcus Borg and a few others are out there speaking not just to the unconverted, but to the progressive Christians? I know I'm going to get some flack for this, but don't say John Spong. Spong is, in my mind, nothing more than a bomb thrower -- at Christians.
But there are good theologians out there who, as Tony suggests, write a lot of material for the academic community, but little for either clergy or more importantly the lay person. So, where does the educated Christian layperson go? Why to Bart Ehrman and John Spong, neither of whom provides the kind of material that will stir the soul of a progressive Christian soul. Indeed, much of what I read from progressive Christians seems intent on attacking the church.
But there is good theology out there that could be transformative. And a good example is the stuff that Philip Clayton is doing - except his written materials are highly specialized and very dense. I'm reading his Adventures in the Spirit, but I've only made it through four chapters and although trained in theology, I find it difficult sledding. But, in his videos -- many of which are posted here on this blog, I find an engaged, committed, personable, gracious, theologian. I'd love it if he would, take what he's doing in these more academic works and brings it down to the level of the lay person -- the kind of book that a Marcus Borg might write (and publish with HarperOne).
So, I think Tony is right. Progressives need to be creating spirit lifting, intellectually stimulating, but understandable books for the Christian populace!
Comments
That is exactly the kind of attitude that gets the church attacked.
I invite you to come out into the community and try working with those people the "Christians" have no use for. (illegal immigrants, drug addicts, uneducated people, sex workers, etc)You may find that God loves them all.
And it does not take a theologian to communicate understanding and kindness.(Isn't that what Jesus taught?)
Forgive me if I have misjudged you.
The list could easily be multiplied.
To Michael, most of those mentioned aren't academic theologians. Diana is -- like me -- a historian. McLaren's training is in English literature, Taylor, Robinson, Gomes, White, aren't academic theologians either. Claibourne is an evangelical, I'm not familiar with Karen Horst Cobb, but again what is she writing that is available for the run of the mill person.
What Tony was suggesting, and I agree, is that those, like Clayton, come out of the tower and engage the common person (and clergy). John Cobb does that in his more recent pieces.
I would say that something like Diana's latest book -- Peoples History of Christianity -- is pitched just perfectly -- just from a theological perspective.
Sorry.. I am venting
Chuck
(or any other text).
Sorry...I'm just venting.
David Mc
Hey, you got me to notice Albert the Great. Patron saint of Roman Catholic Theologians. Interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_the_Great
anyway, what I meant was...
Have we come a long way in understanding in the last 1-2000 years? Many seem to want to return to a simpler faith, and think earlier followers had advantages. Was ignorance bliss, or are we the ignorant ones? Wouldn't those who were closer in time to when Jesus was with us be the most accurate?
We are all theologians.
That's a lot of monkeys.
David Mc
I also think that blogs like this in fact provide opportunities for non-academics to share with others about their relationships with God and their experience of Kingdom living.
And I think Jesus message was that kingdom living was truly a way of life, not theological construct. Theologians attempt to measure and quantify and ultimately to systematize kingdom living. Non-academics are more interest in the 'living' and less in the systemization. If theologians desire to become more popularly relevant they are going to have worry less about systemizing the Kingdom and more about living in the Kingdom.
John
You said: "Many seem to want to return to a simpler faith, and think earlier followers had advantages."
This is what I see too.
I suspect that Jesus said all that needed to be said. From Paul to Augustine to Luther and Calvin, it seems that our professional theologians have lost the simple truths of the original message. They seem intent on loading us down with needless burdens, systems, and complexities, all intended to dress up Jesus' simple message: Love God and love those whom God loves, that is, love all of God's children and love them enough to forgive them their worst offenses.
Love unconditionally and infuse our relationships with that unconditional love.
John
"I also think that blogs like this in fact provide opportunities for non-academics to share with others about their relationships with God..."
For me, for sure.
Or even the IDEA of God.
Hey, and we're saving gas.
Nearly makes computers look like a good thing.
I guess Bob's original intent was vis-versa. He knows most of the public would not normally seek the modern academics' view.
The comment:
"love those whom God loves" is even more powereful and inclusive than Justice's flame.
There are two sides to this.
I would say that most academic theologians want to read other academic theologians. I would also guess that a lot of practicing clergy want to read academic clergy - though I'm not sure most have time to.
Here's the tricky part: how much theology does the average lay person want to read? Is there, in the end, enough interest for academic theologians to write for the audience?
250-350 page book on the theology of Jesus. Leave Paul, the Church (creeds and Catechisms) and later interpreters and discussions of provenenace, originality and redaction out of it (but of course the theologian will be informed thereby and may compile a second section - perhaps even longer - of annotations and footnotes).
The perspective should assume that the Gospels faithfully recorded their contents, including the internal contradictions.
Starting perhaps with trip to Jerusalem at 12, or his baptism, (I would leave out the Birth Narratives because they do not reflect the the intentional teachings of Jesus per se), and moving on to the Temptation, the Isaiah reading, the wedding at Cana, healings, casting out demons, Sermon on the Mount, the bread of life discourse, public debates, the parables, his prayer life in general, the apocalyptic pronouncements, private teaching to his apostles, the revival of Lazarus, the woman at the well, the last supper sermon, his arrest, trial, death and post resurrection teachings.
Now I realize there are theological perspectives on each of the areas which will focus the discussion, and so, it might be even more helpful to have several, thematically identical books, written by a range of scholars, i.e., by a progressive (Borg, Crossan, Fox), a conservative (Wright, Scott Hahn) and a fundamenalist (Norman Geisler), and by someone with a more pastoral perspective (Tony Campolo, Chuck Swindoll).
The scholars would not debate each other, but would simply present their understanding of Jesus message, divided by common chapter divisions and they would present Jesus teachings as viewed through their perspectives as clearly, and non-argumentatively, and undogmatically as they can.
Now that would be useful theology for the general public.
John
I want to pick up on something Chris wrote. I do think there is an interest and perhaps a market in theological work -- for the lay person. I've decided to do a theology 101 class next fall, because I had a number of church members say -- we've never been taught theology. We want to know about things like the trinity, heaven, hell, etc. Now, remember I pastor a Disciples church and the Stone-Campbell movement isn't known for its emphasis on theology. We are, after all, non-creedal. But my people want to know what all the fuss is about.
What is interesting about Philip Clayton is that he is wrestling with the intersection of science and theology in interesting ways.
As for simplicity, Alexander Campbell was an adherent of John Locke's notion of a simple reasonable faith. He believed that while creeds had their place, when made tests of fellowship they became divisive. Just follow the NT, he suggested, but unfortunately we ran into the same problems as before -- each arguing about whose interpretation was correct!
You could use the Jefferson Bible to reflect the mind of the class as a common starting point. We all think Jesus is awesome.
And then add the parts he left out and the churches' theological ideas one by one for debate?
I look forward to class.
David Mc
http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/jeffbsyl.html
http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/jeffbsyl.html
I will confess and I know I am not alone.. we often sit and get fed by a sermon on Sunday.. but we don't spend enough time doing our own study.
I recommend Wayne Gruden's systematic theology as a great walk through on every topic you can think of..
Chuck
Even your example of Marcus Borg is not a trained theologian, but a Nuestestamentler specializing in historical Jesus research.
Sure, I want more people like Clayton to come out of the tower. And people like Moltmann and others. But the real face of "progressive theology for the populace" will always be that of those who popularize the academic heavyweights. That IS the tradition of Niebuhr and other "public theologians."
This is old (Cox), but still a good read. I'll check him out.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,941039,00.html?iid=chix-sphere
David Mc