Saving Darwin -- A Review


SAVING DARWIN: How to be a Christian and Believe in Evolution. By Karl Giberson. San Francisco: HarperOne, 2008. viii + 248 pp.

If you’ve been listening to any of the rhetoric about Charles Darwin of late, then a title like this should draw one of two responses: On the one hand, there is an increasingly vocal group of people who would find the idea of Charles Darwin getting saved insulting to Darwin and to them. Darwin, after all, has liberated us from the confining straitjacket of religion, enabling us to be atheists. On the other hand, there is an even larger, and very vocal contingent of people who believe that the only way for Darwin to get saved would be for him to repent of his diabolical schemes and recant his theories, theories that have led so many people astray. With these two positions seeming to define the possible categories of discussion, one might wonder whether there is another possible way of looking at Darwin – a middle road perhaps?

When Karl Giberson, a Christian and a physicist teaching at a Christian college, speaks of “saving Darwin,” he has reputation and not soul in mind. Giberson has written a number of articles and books that have addressed this issue, helping people find their way through the maze of conflicting statements about Darwin, science, and evolution. The subtitle offers insight into what his agenda might be. As a Christian and as a scientist who affirms evolution he wants us to consider whether these Christian faith and evolution are compatible. If not, then what options do we have?

Giberson begins his exploration, much of which is historical, with a confession – a confession of his starting point. Like many of us who now embrace evolution, there was a time when he was of a different opinion. Indeed, as a youth he had become interested in science, but in a science framed by the late Creationist Henry Morris. When he went to college, he took with him a well-used copy of The Genesis Flood, a book written by Morris, a highly regarded engineer and John C. Whitcomb, a fundamentalist bible scholar. In their book, which continues to be republished and widely read, these two men laid out in detail what became the creationist position. It is young earth and it places the Flood at the center of the conversation. Indeed, the flood is seen as the explanation for the fossil record and all other geological questions. He went to college, living and breathing Morris and Whitcomb, only to discover that both the science and the interpretation of the bible were deeply flawed. That difficult discovery led him on a journey toward an embrace of evolutionary theory.

In this important and readable book, Giberson takes on both ends of the spectrum – the creationists who disregard evolution (and in this group one must add the Intelligent Design folk) and the New Atheists who believe that evolution liberates us from religion. Although, as a number of commentators have noted of late, Darwin isn’t the beginning and the end of evolution -- the theory emerged before the publication of The Origin of the Species and it has continued to “evolve” since then – Darwin has become the face of evolution for many Christians. If Giberson’s question is to be answered in the affirmative, then Darwin’s legacy needs to be reclaimed and restored – thus the saving of Darwin.

In the first chapter, entitled “The Lie Among Us,” The author takes aim at the conflicting portrayals of Darwin. He introduces us to a man who was cautious, and who started as a person of faith and ended not as an atheist but as an agnostic. In response to those who would charge Darwin with conceiving of this theory – including natural selection – to sustain his spiritual infidelity, the author notes that the theory emerged prior to the loss of faith. But ultimately it wasn’t the science that caused him to walk away from God, it was the unanswered moral and theological questions that plague us all, the most important of which was the death of his young beloved daughter Annie. When he went on the voyage, he would have been a good Intelligent Design person. He was quite taken with William Paley’s Natural Theology, but in time he discovered that Paley’s watchmaker wasn’t as careful about his work as had been suggested. Paley was his guide as he headed out on his journey, but his expectations were not fulfilled. At his death, Giberson suggests that Darwin was a reluctant agnostic. He never attacked the church – indeed he remained a faithful member, supporting its causes, though while his family was attending worship he would walk in nature.

We are reminded throughout the book that from the very beginning Darwin found support for his ideas among religious people. At first Darwin wasn’t considered all that big a threat – a far bigger threat was coming from Germany in the form of higher critical biblical studies, especially those undertaken by David F. Strauss, whose work questioned many important theological concepts. As for Darwin, most found it possible to adapt their theology to the new discoveries. Some turned to day-age theories or gap theories, finding ways to fit an ancient and developing earth into the first chapter of Genesis. What has become creationism, has its earliest foundations in the writings of Ellen G. White, the founder of Seventh Day Adventism, and then further developed by an amateur Adventist geologist named George McCready Price. The whole idea of flood geology emerged out of the thought of White and Price. In time, others, including Morris took up these ideas, they essentially covered up the origins.

Where Darwin’s theory really became problematic was its use outside the scientific realm. Indeed, Darwin understood evolution, natural selection, sexual selection, and the “survival of the fittest” in descriptive ways, not prescriptive ones. Other interpreters of his theories, from Herbert Spencer to Andrew Carnegie to Adolph Hitler, grabbed onto the theory and used it to rationalize and justify projects that had nothing to do with evolutionary theory. These people are what Giberson call’s “Darwin’s Dark Companions.” Ideologies and practices such as social Darwinism, eugenics, the holocaust, racism, are unsustainable extensions that Darwin never countenanced. Unfortunately, opponents of evolution make much of this baggage, while most supporters of evolution would rather ignore it. It is necessary that we deal with this baggage but understand that Darwin never countenanced it. It is unfortunate for all that Darwin has become the scapegoat for any number of ideologies and perceived sins. In the end, it’s not a question of whether or not the theory is true – even if true if it is this dangerous then surely it must be opposed.

For many of us, what we know of this theory is connected to well publicized legal battles – from the Scopes Trial to Dover, PA. In the early days of litigation the issue was bans on teaching evolution. Many states enacted legislation early in the 20th century, like the one in Tennessee, that banned the teaching of evolution. The trial in Dayton, Tennessee, interestingly enough sustained that ban, and led to decades of ignoring evolution in America’s educational system. It was only because of Sputnik that evolution returned to the discussion. Publishers had excised evolution from biology text books to make them more saleable across the country. Sputnik led to new science standards, and the re-introduction of evolution to America’s biology classes. That led to a number of high profile cases that sought to introduce “alternative” explanations – from scientific creationism to intelligent design. Each of these efforts sought to put religion into scientific garb, but the courts saw through the subterfuge, and rejected these efforts as violations of the separation of church and state. Evolution keeps being attacked, and yet each time it wins the argument.

Having set the stage, Giberson returns to the alternatives, first scientific creationism and then to intelligent design (ID). As mentioned earlier, in the 19th century most evangelicals found ways of adapting their reading of scripture to scientific discoveries. But more recently a new effort has been undertaken to develop an alternative theory of origins that puts creation within the last 10,000 years. Scientific creationism, with its flood geology has its origins with the Adventists – Ellen White and George McCready Price. They were joined later by Morris and Whitcomb, who refashioned the arguments in support of a literal six-day creation. They did so by first attacking the geological column, that description of past epochs evidenced by layers of rock. That column suggests development from simple to complex, with the presence of modern humans at the top of the column. They attacked this geology by insisting that everything got laid down, not over the eons, but over night in a universal flood. Pointing to thrust faults, Price and his descendants seek to explain why fossils are out of order. They use the exception as the rule. From there things get rather fanciful – from vapor canopies and more. The Genesis Flood book is, according to Giberson, “two long arguments woven together. On one hand it is “warmed-over Price” without the Adventism, and on the other it is an attack on Bernard Ramm’s progressive creationism, which the authors of that book saw as an unwarranted compromise. Price’s own contribution is hidden, but the attacks on Ramm are not. In the end, their jettisoning of inconvenient science so as to be true to their interpretation of the bible won the day among evangelicals – at least based on total book sales. An interesting note is that Moody Press originally passed on The Genesis Flood, because they assumed the day-age theory to be the generally accepted explanation. That was 1960, however.

In time, their young earth creationism became the “brand-name creationism.” The movement published books, started research centers and colleges, but ultimately this all proved futile when they couldn’t produce any research supporting their views. Many of their purported signs of evidence were proven fraudulent (Paluxy River footprints), and the scientific community responded by challenging their pseudo-science. But for people like Henry Morris, this wasn’t just about science, it was about faith. Morris believed that evolution was a Satanic plot – indeed, he called Satan the original evolutionist. Thus, evolution and Darwin got caught up in an ongoing Culture War, that has yet to end – though the players have largely changed. Ken Ham and Philip Johnson are the new figures in the debate.

While Ken Ham, a former high school teacher – without Morris’s science credentials – continues to hold down the old style scientific creationist plank, the failure in the courts by the creationist people led to a new “bigger-tent” effort. Intelligent Design, which emerged with Philip Johnson, and which in many ways is warmed over Paley, doesn’t take a position on the age of the earth, only on the insufficiency of evolution. There still remain a contingent of young earth enthusiasts, even some like Kurt Wise, with scientific credentials, but as Giberson points out this group admit that they believe in spite of the evidence for evolution. In this new effort, the focus is on getting God back into the equation. The leading voice in this effort is Philip Johnson, a law professor, who makes no bones about his lack of scientific credentials. His mantra is simply that evolution is irredeemably linked to a naturalism that has no room for God and thus is pseudo-science. The Discovery Institute, a well-funded effort, has sought to give credibility to this effort, and it has recruited people like William Dembski – a mathematician -- and Michael Behe, a biochemist to support their insistence that at some point, there needs to be a designer to explain the reality as we find it. Unfortunately, for them, the courts have seen through their efforts and found religion at its heart – despite efforts to cloud the vision. Ultimately, Intelligent Design is a nineteenth century answer to 21st century questions. But that hasn’t slowed them down. Efforts continue, by both young-earthers and ID folk – which has led to a counter-effort by those who would take the completely opposite tactic. The unfortunate result of many of the responses – such as a definition of science issued by the National Association of Biology Teachers, is that further marginalizes religious people otherwise disposed to embracing evolution.

If creationism is religion parading as science, there are expressions of Darwinism and evolutionary thinking that essentially parades as religion. Giberson writes:

“The promotion of evolution – both biological and cosmic – by its champions grows ever more evangelical as time goes by. Proponents sound more and more like preachers.” (p. 174).


Evolutionists such as Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins, and others have offered their own creation myths, which they offer as an alternative to theistic understandings. Again, the choice is offered, only from the other side.

At the heart of much of the confusion is the definition of science. In the culture war debates, both sides insist that the other side is practicing pseudo-science. Part of the problem is that often the definitions are misunderstood or misused. This problem is exacerbated by distinctions that exist between physics and biology. Karl Popper’s definition of science, which speaks of theses and experiments and falsifiability works well with physics, but not so well with biology, especially evolutionary biology. Giberson, who is a physicist by training, notes that the truth of evolutionary biology is demonstrated in its ability to explain a complex web of information – ranging from the fossil record, distribution of species, comparative anatomy, developmental similarities across species (at one point in our embryological development we have gills), and comparative biochemistry (shared DNA patterns). Creationism cannot explain this information, but evolution can. Thus, when we talk about science, we need to be clear on how it is “testable.”

As a Christian, Giberson wishes to bring together his own faith understandings and his scientific studies. He doesn’t believe that either excludes the other, necessarily. He recognizes that there is not testable way of proving one way or another whether we are here accidentally. There are difficulties on both sides of the question – from the seeming randomness of life on earth to the beauty and intricacies of creation. Faith provides a sense of meaning to reality that evolution simply cannot offer. As for the religious opposition to evolution, it is less about the science and more about the fear that God will be removed from the equation. Giberson, like many of us, believes there is a third option, one that runs between the either/or of the materialists and the creationists. But what role does God play? That is the question – if we are, that is – more than a combination of quarks and leptons. He writes:

If God exists, however, then other possibilities open up. Perhaps the unfolding of history includes a steady infusion of divine creativity under the scientific radar. Perhaps the meaning we encounter in so many different places and so many different ways is not simply an accident of our biology, but a hint that the universe is more than particles and their interactions. (p. 220).


We must take this by faith, but it does offer a different perspective on reality. As a person of faith who accepts the validity of evolutionary biology, I at the same time sense that there is more to the story than simply meets the eye. This is not to embrace a “god of the gaps” explanation of missing links. Like Giberson I understand that today’s gaps could be filled in tomorrow, and when that happens my God must get smaller. But if God is an active player from day one in all that transpires, then perhaps the story is different.

Saving Darwin is a must read. It lays out the issues in as balanced a way possible, for someone who has a stake in the conversation. He lays out the viewpoints and shows where they fall short – on both sides of the equation. In this book, he offers a middle road, one that rejects the either/or ideologies of creationist (Intelligent Design is included here) or materialists. Reading this book should help clarify many of the issues before us!



Comments

Anonymous said…
Without the Bible, there is no Christianity. The Bible is entirely incompatible with evolution. Those who try to reconcile the two are intellectually and theologically dishonest. You can be a Bible believer, or you can be an evolutionist; but you cannot be both.
Robert Cornwall said…
Gary,

Your mantra never changes, but I challenge you to read this book. I challenge you to consider that possibility that there is another options besides the bible and science. You have put up a false dichotomy that simply cannot hold. To put it another way, I challenge you to go to return to pre-modern medicine.
Brad Hart said…
Gary:

The Bible is incompatible with evolution ONLY if you accept SOLA SCRIPTURA. If you are one of those individuals that still believes in the talking snake, talking bush, that Adam lived 900 years and that BEHEMOTH mentioned in Job is somehow a dinosaur then yes...the Bible doesn't fit. However, if you are able to see the Bible as simply ancient man's attempt to make sense of his world, then maybe, JUST MAYBE you can accept evolution...which, by the way, is pretty damn accurate.

BTW, thanks for the book review, Pastor Cornwall. It's on my "to read" list now!
Anonymous said…
Saving Darwin, How to Be a Christian and Believe in Evolution

Christianity is doomed unless Christians accept the discoveries of modern science, including evolutionary biology. Unfortunately for Christians who want to remain Christians, it's pretty darn hard to be a Christian and love evolution at the same time. In my opinion Darwin killed the god invention, and he most certainly made Christianity obsolete. For example, how can a Christian who has a good understanding of the history of life possibly believe in heaven? Anyone who really understands evolution knows the human race is nothing more than one of the modern ape species. We are just one small branch on a vast tree of life, and there is nothing special about us. There's certainly no reason for a magic god fairy to single out the human ape species for special treatment. Definitely the heaven idea must be thrown out by anyone who understands reality.

Another problem for scientifically literate Christians is if they accept evolution then they must know that Jeebus was an ape. Now why would anyone want to worship a dead ape? Definitely the "Jeebus is god" idea must be thrown out.

Even though I'm convinced it's ridiculous to accept both modern biology and Christianity, there's at least one Christian biologist who I greatly admire. Please click my name to listen to his explanation for why understanding the reality of evolutionary biology is important and very rewarding. An atheist couldn't have said it better.
Robert Cornwall said…
The link is to Ken Miller -- whose writings are exceptionally helpful. I'd say to both Gary and to Bob, check out Giberson. Note that Darwin was never an atheist and remained a church member (though an agnostic) to the day of his death.

But Darwin was also aware that many people of faith could and did bring evolution and faith together.
Anonymous said…
Talking about the BIG picture, the universe is still way over all our heads. Even for today's scientists.

Rather than a tree of life, we seem to be in more of a web. In any case, if you knew the future, you could create by evolution.

We have a lot to learn before judging our place in the cosmos.

As far as Christians worshiping a religious leader appearing as a highly evolved and loving monkey. Check Buddhism's opinion of their leader. I feel fine about it.

A monk asked Ummon: "What is Buddha?"

Ummon answered him: "Dried dung."

Mumon's comment: It seems to me Ummon is so poor he cannot distinguish the taste of one food from another, or else he is too busy to write readable letters. Well, he tried to hold his school with dried dung. And his teaching was just as useless.

Lightning flashes,
Sparks shower.
In one blink of your eyes
You have missed seeing.

You claim to understands reality but you don't believe biologists? What are you left with? A mystery.

David Mc
Anonymous said…
Cornwall,

I don't need to read the book to know that the author cannot reconcile evolution with the Bible without compromising and misreading Scripture. I already know that is a fact.
Anonymous said…
Brad Hart,

Thank you for illustrating my point about how the Bible must be misunderstood in order to try to reconcile it with evolution. That was an excellent example.
Anonymous said…
bobxxxx,

If the only way to "save" Christianity is to believe the lie of evolution, then let Christianity die. If evolution is really true, then Christianity cannot be.
Brad Hart said…
Uh, Gary, what are you getting at? It's preposterous to believe in a talking snake, Adam living to the age of 900, Moses carrying on a conversation with a bush that isn't consumed by fire, etc. When people insist on this as being the "works of God" they are simply revealing themselves to be theologically arrogant, since they believe they are the "chosen" guardians of some type of "higher" truth. This simply isn't so.

But since you won't take my word for it, perhaps the words of a biblical figure. I give you St. Paul:

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." (1 Corinthians 13:11)

In other words, lets quit believing in the Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy B.S. You are now an adult (I presume) so let's try THINKING like one.
Anonymous said…
Brad Hart,

I give you St. Paul right back: II Corinthians 11:3 "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." Paul believed that the serpent really did talk to Eve.

You don't claim to be a Christian, do you? I have no problem with your unbelief, as long as you aren't claiming to be a believer. I recognize that most people don't believe what is in the Bible, and that's fine.
C Ryan said…
Brad,
Its preposterous to believe a man was dead for three full days and then got up and started walking around, but that is what the Bible claims happened with Christ. As Paul said.. if Christ didn't resurrect then our faith is dead.
-Chuck
Brad Hart said…
Gary:

Yes, I am a believer. However, I believe that we also live in the 21st century and that we have moved past the childish notions of the ancients. Science is real. It has added clarity to my religon. My faith doesn't ride on a stupid talking snake.
Anonymous said…
Brad Hart,

You're a believer in what? You have convinced me that you believe in evolution. What I find unbelievable is your claim to also possess faith in Christ. You've already proven you don't believe the Bible. Your claim of the kind of faith the Bible talks about is baseless. Either you have deceived yourself, or someone else has deceived you.
The idea of evolution by natural selection is provably false. It rests on rampant assumptions, speculation, and extrapolations (such as the peppered moth obsession). And “Darwinism” has nothing to do with evolution. Natural selection works to preserve the species, not change it into something else. It continues to bind our minds because no fact or objective evidence is allowed to refute it. Creationist beliefs also have problems. They rest upon misinterpretations of much of the Old Testament record. An alternative to both is clearly required. The evolutionists, hamstrung by “gradualism,” will never explain the origin of consciousness or of language. But if we recognize the inefficacy of gradualism, and if we recognize that the Genesis creation account is not all completely literal, and if we consider a new perspective, a rational paradigm presents itself. We must revise our world view. Check out

www.eloquentbooks.com/ManAndHisPlanet.html
Furthermore:

The Darwinist-to-Be

When the Darwinist-to-be begins his advanced education, he goes inside an intellectual wall that has no doors or windows. Inside are his teachers, professors, mentors, etc. Once inside, short of an epiphany, he never goes outside the wall again. And either he doesn’t know what’s happening outside the wall or else he considers it to be “crap” not worth considering (words of one Darwinist to me). Nothing from the outside can penetrate that wall, because inside the wall is unalterable Truth: The biological world has evolved over millions of years by natural selection, and no observed fact or logic is allowed to refute this belief.
Surprisingly, from inside that wall, well-known evolutionary scientists Stephen J. Gould and Richard Lewontin have given convincing support that conventional evolutionary “science” ignores evidence not in accord with its fundamental precepts. In their discussion of biological adaptation, they provide the following rules underlying Darwinist methodology:

"(1) If one adaptive argument fails, try another.
(2) If one adaptive argument fails, assume that another, as yet undiscovered one, exists.
(3) In the absence of a good adaptive argument in the first place, attribute failure to the imperfect understanding of where an organism lives and what it does.
Adaptationalists appear to ignore opposed explanations even when these seem to be more interesting and fruitful than the preferred untestable speculations. The rejection of one adaptive story always leads to its replacement by another, rather than to a suspicion that a different kind of explanation might be required. Since the range of adaptive stories is as wide as our minds are fertile, new stories can always be postulated.
Also, the criteria for acceptance of a story are so loose that many pass without proper confirmation. Often evolutionists use consistency with natural selection as the sole criterion and consider their work done when they concoct a plausible story." (Gould and Lewontin, 1979:586-8).

Unlike many Darwinists, they recognize a serious problem with their philosophy. But like most of their Darwinist colleagues, they can’t turn away from it. Apparently, Darwinists are trained [brainwashed?] to “think outside the facts.”

For a discussion of what is outside the intellectual wall besides Creationism, check out
www.eloquentbooks.com/ManAndHisPlanet.html
Brad Hart said…
Hmmmm...Gary, I choose to worship Jesus, not a stupid book. I'm convinced that the Bible is the most popular idol in the world. More "Christians" worship it than they do Jesus. You've simply added further credence to my belief.
Robert Cornwall said…
Jim,

I'm not a scientist, but from what I do know, what you're saying is simply not true. As I've encouraged others, read this book and consider what he is trying to tell us.

As to Gary, if the choice is the Bible or science, I'm afraid that the Bible, at least as you interpret it, will eventually fail.

Now, I wouldn't go as far as Brad in his comments about the Bible, because I happen to have a fairly high view of Scripture -- but I'm not an inerrantist nor am I literalist -- but the Bible can become an idol.

Scripture is revelation in that it witnesses to God's revelation in Jesus Christ. It doesn't have to be perfect in its science or even history to bear witness to this truth.
John said…
Hi Gary,

I see you are at it again. You said: "I don't need to read the book to know that the author cannot reconcile evolution with the Bible without compromising and misreading Scripture. I already know that is a fact."

The dogma card or: don't think of upsetting what I know to be true.

What you are saying is that a passage of Scripture has one literal, divinely intended meaning and this one interpretation is true and is the only truth to be derived from that passage of Scripture, and you are saying that now that you know this truth, you need not reconsider Scripture - because its truth, its singular truth, has already been discerned.

So then interpret this passage literally for me:

"In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless void and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters."

What, literally speaking is a formless void? How can wind exist before the earth exists as anything other than a void, or even as a chaos? If the 'waters' have not yet been 'separated' how can the wind from God sweep over the face of the waters?

As a literalist you will be certain to avoid any suggestion that this is poetic, or that its explanation is known only to God, because as you can read, this is a revelation from God, complete in and of itself, and without poetry or metaphor. As you claim to know the exact truth of the Scripture please explain the truths revealed here.

More importantly, please let me know God's point in making this revelation to you and I and to the world. Tell me how this revelation contributes to my salvation, and how believing in the precise meaning which you attribute to it (as opposed to any other meaning) is more conducive to my salvation than having a different or more imperfect understanding.

I know that our belief in Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior will set us free and allow us to embrace the salvific Grace of God, but how does what we believe about this quote from Genesis add or take away from the salvation purchased for us by the death of Jesus?

I tender the above questions with sincerity.

John
Anonymous said…
Exodus 20:1 "And God spake all these words saying,"
now skip down to verse 11 where God says, "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested on the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

Here we have the very words of God Himself, the Almighty, saying that He made the universe and everything in it in six days. You evolutionists contradict the very words of God. So, not only do you have to "spiritualize" Genesis, but you'll have to do the same thing with this Scripture. And the rest of the Bible too.

Am I the only one reading here who can understand the reality of the situation? Am I the only one who understands that there is no way to reconcile the Bible with evolution and still have anything left of the Bible worth having?
John said…
So you are not going to answer my questions?

John
Ojalanpoika said…
Sure the ancient (wo)man saw them:
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Dinoglyphs.htm

They are documented not only in the classic books from the antiquities, but also as drawings, mosaics, bronze seals, cave paintings and even in garments from South America.

Pauli Ojala
biochemist
Helsinki, Fine land
Unknown said…
I was impressed by Karl Giberson's review of the evolution/creation debate and how fundamentalism is derailing evangelism in the west by insistence on a literal interpretation of creation and the flood. To me the issue hinges very much on how we understand Gen.1.v.3 where God said 'let there be light,' and there was light.
If a literal rendition is demanded as v.5 seems to indicate, what light was this and where did it come from since there were no luminaries in the sky until the fourth day? Allowing Scripture to interpret itself 1 Thes.5:5 makes it perfectly clear the text in question is talking the kingdom of heaven, i.e. the spiritual realm of God's existence with all the angels. This is proof enough of how Gen.1-11 should be interpreted; not literally but metaphorically, typologically and spiritually. That way it never dates no matter what happened in the past or what may happen in the future. Word for word is a naive and pharisaical way of interpretation.
Edgar Bowen
Unknown said…
I have made my point about the interpretation of Gen.1-11. Now let me take up with Gary over the six days of creation. He infers this was a verbatum dictation from God of what happened, and John rightly questions what it has to do with salvation. Does any thinking person believe God would even begin to tell the creation saga. He does not pander to man's fascination with the natural sciences. God is timeless so it is of absolutely no consequence to Him how long creation took and He is not about distracting human attention away from the main game.
The six days of creation are to do with six days of work in contrast to one day's rest on the seventh day. Why seven days? Because a week is a readily measurable period of time using lunar phases when there were no calendars.

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