What is the future of the organized/institutional church? That is a question that those of us who are clergy are invested in. Spiritual But Not Religious folks won't pay our salaries! But the data is grim, going forward. We might, as the General Minister of my denomination declares, believe that ours is a church for this particular moment. As a pastor I'm finding it increasingly difficult to get the message heard. It's not so much an issue of marketing the product as receptive ears. So, Martin Marty points us to two recent books that take on this reality. Their assessment, it appears won't make those of us in the church jump for joy, but it is something we must take account of. I must note here that I've not read either book, though I probably should add them to the list. So, I invite you to take a look and offer your thoughts.